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Check plugins made pre-CK #8

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pStyl3 opened this issue Sep 15, 2023 · 12 comments
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Check plugins made pre-CK #8

pStyl3 opened this issue Sep 15, 2023 · 12 comments

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pStyl3 commented Sep 15, 2023

A number of plugins (files ending in .esm, .esp or .esl) were made available by mod authors before the official Creation Kit has been released. As of opening this issue, xEdit by @ElminsterAU with support for Starfield has not been released either, which means that any mod plugins so far should be considered highly experimental, if not outright suspicious.

We therefore should check these mods once the CK with Starfield support gets released (or xEdit for that matter), and assign warnings to these plugins, if we come to the conclusion that they are harmful to the users game.

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On the 19th of October 2023 ElminsterAU released xEdit 4.1.4r, the first & highly experimental release candidate for the upcoming official xEdit version 4.1.5. This release candidate was the first version of xEdit that had Edit support enabled for Starfield.

Everything created with 4.1.4r or later (the first official release with editing) should be structurally fine. No issues have been found in xEdit since then in regards to the files it generates

Any issues I've corrected since then have been more of the "i should be able to do x" nature

But obviously also, anything that's not a plain .esm (no ESL or overlay flags) didn't come that way out of an official version of xEdit.

Source: ElminsterAU, 01.11.2023

Going forward, any plugins down below that were published after the 19th of October, but before the Creation Kit for Starfield was released, will be listed in their own section.

Plugins that were published before SF1Edit 4.1.4r was released:

Plugins that were published after SF1Edit 4.1.4r was released:

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pStyl3 commented Sep 20, 2023

Thanks for mentioning more plugins that I didn't know about before. @ElminsterAU @CansecoDev I've integrated them into the initial post, so that they are all in one place. I've also sorted the list alphabetically by their mod names, so that it's easier to go through the list.

Besides the above, I've updated the following mod names:

  • Perk Up - Easier Leveling has been renamed to Perk Up - Better Experience (it also includes xatmosPerkUp.esp)
  • Perk Up - Richer Vendors has been renamed to Perk Up - Richer Galaxy

Thanks for the update @AtillaTheBum.

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pStyl3 commented Sep 22, 2023

I've downloaded and placed the following mod plugins in the Data folder:

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BumoutAlphaPatch.esp
CaptLockerUnlimited.esp
CAR.esp
cargo2x.esp
crafting.esp
EquipmentTierPrefix.esp
fasterxp_10.esp
fasterxp_2.esp
fasterxp_5.esp
FastWalk.esp
Hailey.esp
HideSpaceSuits.esp
HSIBA.esp
ICC.esp
IncreasedContrabandPrices.esp
legendaries.esp
LewdOutfits.esp
LinkedCompanionSuit.esp
MoreDramaticGravJumps.esp
MoreImmersiveLandingsTakeOffs.esp
OutpostStorage.esp
PurchasableStarbornSuits.esp
RealisticDamageMultipliers.esm
RicherMerchants.esp
Samantha.esp
ShipCargoStorage.esp
ShipStorage.esp
StellarAscendancy.esp
UnlimitedSprint.esp
Weightless.esp
xatmosNoClutter.esp
xatmosPerkUp.esp
xatmosPerkUpChallenges.esp
xatmosPerkUpVendors.esp
xatmosPerkUpXP.esp
xatmosStarborn.esp

I'm using the GitHub Actions artifact loot_0.20.0-99-gb743ba8_starfield-win64.7z right now and LOOT displays all of these plugins upon launching LOOT. That being said, LOOT found that multiple plugins have a plugin header version that is lower than the game's minimum supported header version of 0.96.

These plugins have a plugin header version of 0.94:

cargo2x.esp
crafting.esp
EquipmentTierPrefix.esp
fasterxp_2.esp
fasterxp_5.esp
fasterxp_10.esp
ICC.esp
OutpostStorage.esp
ShipCargoStorage.esp
ShipStorage.esp
StellarAscendancy.esp
UnlimitedSprint.esp
Weightless.esp

These plugins have a plugin header version of 0.95:

Hailey.esp
Samantha.esp

In addition to the above, upon sorting the load order LOOT detects

cargo2x.esp
FastWalk.esp
HideSpaceSuits.esp

as invalid and therefore ignores these plugins going forward.

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pStyl3 commented Sep 26, 2023

Four additional mods have been added:

Hide Spacesuit Anywhere
Lewd Outfits - With Working Skin
More Immersive Landings And Takeoffs
Starborn Science ( New Game Plus Alternative )

HideSpaceSuits.esp from Hide Spacesuit Anywhere is also recognized as being invalid by LOOT.

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pStyl3 commented Oct 8, 2023

Five additional mods have been added:

Better Outpost Generators
Show Spacesuit When Taking Environmental Damage
NPCs Take Environmental Damage
More Visualized Docking
Adhesive Vacuum Tape

Information from the mod description of Adhesive Vacuum Tape:

This was created using my own homebrew plugin generation program and checked using a custom-compiled version of SF1View and in-game testing. Given the limited scope, it shouldn't cause any issues, but these are early days.

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pStyl3 commented Jun 17, 2024

Through loot/prelude#69 and #39 we now warn people to not use .esp and .esl plugins in Starfield. As such, I've ticked the checkboxes of the remaining mods from the initial post of this issue, which exclusively provided their mods as .esp plugins.

There are still some mods left with .esp plugins, but they also include .esm variants of their mods, so we can't tick those checkboxes just yet. It's better to look at those .esm files individually and then determine, if any additional actions are needed.

And then there are still of course all the other mods to be checked, which only uploaded their plugins as .esm masters (but still before the CK came out).

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pStyl3 commented Aug 26, 2024

The next official version of LOOT will feature the following message for Starfield plugins:

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I've checked a first batch of plugins listed in this issue, and the following mods/plugins will show the above warning:

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APOGEE - Starship Combat Overhaul
AshApogeeCombatOverhaul.esm
AshApogeeCombatOverhaul_Weapons.esm

Better Outpost Generators
BetterOutpostGenerators.esm

Configurable Ammo Rarity
ConfigurableAmmoRarity.esm

Craftable Ammo and Utilities
crafting.esm

Hide Spacesuit in Breathable Areas
HSIBA.esm

Increased Crew Capacity
IncreasedCrewCapacity.esm

Linked Companion Spacesuit
LinkedCompanionSuit.esm

MJOLNIR Mark V
MJOLNIR.esm

More Immersive Landings And Takeoffs
MoreImmersiveLandingsTakeOffs.esm

More Visualized Docking
MoreVisualizedDocking.esm

NPCs Take Environmental Damage
NPCsTakeEnvDamage.esm

Purchasable Starborn (NG Plus) Suits
PurchasableStarbornSuits.esm

Richer Merchants
Richer Merchants.esm

Show Spacesuit When Taking Environmental Damage
SSWTED.esm

Simple Faster Walk
FastWalk.esm

Simple Immersive Helmets
SimpleImmersiveHelmets.esm

Ultimate Shipyards Unlocked
USU.esm

I've ticked the checkboxes of those plugins accordingly.

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pStyl3 commented Aug 30, 2024

The 2nd batch of mods/plugins with BlueprintShips-Starfield.esm as a master.

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Adoring Fan renamed Mike Hunt
Mike Hunt.esm

All ship parts unlevelled at all vendors (ESM)
SKKShipPartsNoLevelAllVendors.esm

Another Space Adept
BetterSpaceAdept.esm

Automatic Semi Auto Receiver Damage Equality
NoMoreNerfAutoguns.esm

Badmagic - EXP Buffs
Badmagic - EXP Buffs.esm

Better Asteroid Loot
MoreAsteroidDrops.esm

Better Crowd Citizens
Better Crowd Citizens.esm

Better Serpent's Embrace
xoxBetterSerpentsEmbrace.esm

Better Trade Authority Kiosks
xoxBetterTradeKiosks.esm

Better Traits
xoxBetterTraits.esm

Build On Restricted Surfaces
BuildOnRestrictedSurfaces.esm

Coffee Has Some Kick
Coffee Has Some Kick.esm

Conner's Ordinary Conversations - Sale of Substances
COCSOS - Sale of Substances.esm

Conner's Ordinary Conversations - Seek Out Stores
COCSOS - Seek Out Stores.esm

Decorate Starborn
Decorate-Starborn.esm

Doorway placeholder
DoorwayPlaceholder.esm

Doubled Enemy Numbers
2XEnemies.esm

Drinks on the House-Fix
DrinksontheHouseFix.esm

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pStyl3 commented Aug 31, 2024

The 3rd batch of mods/plugins with BlueprintShips-Starfield.esm as a master.

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Drug Manufacturing Extended
DrugManufacturingExtended.esm

Early Game Weapons Empowered
LesserWeaponEmpowered.esm

Earth Restored
Earth Restored.esm

Earth Villa Home
Earth Villa.esm

Easy Tweak Collections(ESM)
EasyPickPocket.esm

ECS Constant kids named and remodeled
ECS_Consistency.esm

Einstein Genetics - NEW Trait
Inquisitor_Starfield_Mods_Einstein Genetics.esm

Engines Reactors and Gravdrives
Engines.esm
Gravdrives.esm
Reactors.esm

Explorer Spacesuit Replacer - Starborn (esm version)
Explorer Replacer - Avitus.esm

EZ's Crime Pays a Pirate's Life
EZ_CrimePays_PirateLife.esm

EZ's Discount and Commerce Mod
EZ_Discount_Commerce.esm

Flight Camera - larger FOV and more responsive ship camera
FlightCamera.esm

FMR - Fire Mode Rebalance
Fire_Mode_Rebalance.esm

Following Asteroids Fix - Stalking Objects Solution
Following Asteroid Fix.esm

Further Looting - Loot up to 5000m away
FurtherLooting.esm

Game Tweaks
GameTweaks-Misc.esm
GameTweaks-Traits.esm
GameTweaks-Vendors.esm
GameTweaks-XP.esm

Gunsling Boostpack Standalone
GunSlingBoostPack.esm

Helpful Activity Objectives
Helpful Activity Objectives.esm

Hugin's KOTOR Neo Crusader
NeoCrusader-CrimsonReplacer.esm

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pStyl3 commented Aug 31, 2024

The final batch of mods/plugins with BlueprintShips-Starfield.esm as a master.

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Larger Captain's Lockers
Larger Captain's Lockers.esm

Legendary Legendaries
LegendaryLegendaries.esm
_vTZvCore.esm

Lexingtons Turret Targetting Radius
Lexingtons_TurretTargetingRadius.esm

Lively's Enhanced Skills
Livelys Enhanced Skills.esm

Lively's Leveled Mannequins Bug Fix
LivelyMannequinFix.esm

M Class Ships and Ship Builder unrestricted
MClassShips.esm

More Ownable Starships - Higher Starship Limit
MoreShips.esm

More Wanted Encounters
xoxMoreWantedEncounters15.esm

Neuralink
Neuralink.esm

NEW Background - Space Assassin
Inquisitor_Starfield_Mods_Space_Assasin.esm

NEW Commercialist Trait
Inquisitor_Starfield_Mods_Commercialist_Trait.esm

NEW Traits NEW Backgrounds - By Inquisitor
Inquisitor_Starfield_Mods_New_Backgrounds&Traits.esm

No Empty Star System
Planets.esm

No Contraband Scans
No Contraband Scans.esm

No Lung Damage While Wearing Space Suit
SuitProtectsAgainstLungDamage.esm

No Self Heal Effect (fog begone)
NoSelfHealEffect.esm

No Weapon Mod Research
No Weapon Mod Research.esm

Outpost Redux - various outpost tweaks to make outposts useable
OutpostTweaks.esm

Outpost Shipyard-Wholesale
Outpost-Shipyard-Wholesale-Atlantis.esm
Outpost-Shipyard-Wholesale-Cydonia.esm
Outpost-Shipyard-Wholesale-Neon.esm

Resurrect Humans (xEdit)
Reanimation.esm

Seeking out Stores - Navigate Using City Info Kiosks
Navigate Using City Terminals.esm

Ship Command Perk Redux - have effectively unlimited crew assignments
ShipCommandRedux.esm

Space Farer - NEW Trait
Inquisitor_Starfield_Mods_SpaceFarer.esm

Space Hauler - NEW Trait
Inquisitor_Starfield_Mods_Space_Hauler.esm

Spacestations for Outposts
StarstationTest.esm

Freedom of Storage
UniversalContainer.esm

Starfield Extended - Craftable Color Swaps
Starfield Extended - Craftable Color Swaps.esm

Starfield Extended - More Engines Rebalanced
Starfield Extended - More Engines Rebalanced.esm

Starfield Extended - New Outfits
Starfield Extended - New Outfits.esm

Starfield Extended - Plainclothes Rangers
Starfield Extended - Plainclothes Rangers.esm

Starfield Extended - Rolling Deep (Ship Command Rebalance)
Starfield Extended - Rolling Deep.esm

Summoning of Ship - Ship Remote Control - Land - Take off - Set gravity
Ship Remote Control.esm

Survivability
SML_Survivability.esm

Take More Traits - ESM version
TakeMoreTraits.esm

TN's Expanded Cargo Holds
TNExpandedCargoHolds.esm

TN's Modular Starborn Suits
TNModularStarbornSuits.esm

TN's Supplemental Cockpits
TNSupplementalCockpits.esm

TN's Supplemental Reactors
TNSupplementalReactors.esm

TN's Weapon To Module Snapping
TNWeaponToModuleSnapping.esm

Tougher Enemies
Tougher Enemies.esm

Ultimate Ship Boosting - Nearly unlimited ship boost
UltimateShipBoost.esm

Weight Lifting Plus (Experimental)
WeightLiftingPlus.esm

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